Windows Vista SP2 lifecycle ended on April 11, , so it was still possible that some of your users used a patched version of this browser in You could use conditional comments and display message recommending Firefox or Opera to them. Window Servers are most likely used by power users who use modern alternatives for their browsing or realize the consequences of using legacy browsers. Once you stop worrying about legacy IE versions, your web development will be easier and more cost effective. Differences in supported features between IE10 and IE11 which you still need to support are not great, but the benefits are bigger if you drop IE9 and IE8 support.
Lubos Kmetko LinkedIn. Lubos Kmetko started to work for Xfive as a front-end developer in He currently helps with business operations and writes for the Xfive blog. I hate IE always and luckily Microsoft buried them by announcing that stop supporting such crappy browsers.
I see the point form the Tech perspective, however, it would be great to have a business perspective. There are plenty of sites supporting IE, due that users are not able to upgrade their working computers, even those users represent a considerably amount of traffic, and stop supporting them means loosing users.
This has been a intensive discussion in my company, and finally we agreed on building a brand new site with all the best of CSS3 and HTML5, and having our old site as a fallback for IE users. Id always advise people to update to the latest version of their browser regardless of which browser they are using. This post applies to previous versions of chrome, safari and firefox too!!
Updates include security patches and other bug fixes and people should not be lazy and keep themselves protected online by updating! Many tech companies thankfully invest to various social responsibility programs so the question is - why not to give up the income from the IE8-IE10 users as a part of social responsibility program?
In this case it would be educating users about safer browsing and improving the overall Internet security. Getting hacked can have serious consequences especially in the business environment which go far beyond the inconvenience of not being able to use the website with the old browsers. If users cannot upgrade their browsers there is definitely someone there who is responsible for that and should get the message. That's fine advice, except for an e-commerce site that cannot afford to refuse service to a significant portion of the population who knows nothing about how to find and install a new browser, and in some cases, don't know what a browser is!
Sure, if an entire industry agreed to immediately shun older versions of IE, it would work fine. Otherwise, taking the action suggested merely directs customers to my competitors. No thanks. We shouldn't make the decision for the users as to what browser they should use.
They should decide themselves whether they care about being secure and if it's worth for them to upgrade. You can try to persuade them in that decision by not showing content but that won't work. Matthias, it's not about making a decision for them it's just not wasting time and resources supporting people using 15 year old tech, it halts progress and causes developers to have to hold back on new features.
When you buy a piece of tech you have to expect that things will need to be kept up to date and if it isnt your not going to get all the latest features when websites implement them such as when css3 was released. This is why browsers such as chrome and firefox and even the new microsoft edge are great since it upgrades without you knowing it's doing it. The further back you go the more cost is involved in keeping up support for old browsers and it gets to the point where it's just not worth it.
Whole-heartedly agree! Microsoft should move away from the Web browser development game and stick with their flagship product, Office.
By continuing to support these old browsers, we become the perpetuators of this very problem. The only way this problem is going to go away, is if people stop using it. And the only way people will stop using it, is if it stops working! Think of it like an investment, the quicker we stop supporting these old browsers, the quicker the uptake of newer technologies. All it takes is to update to a system that is capable of auto-updating to newer versions like any modern browser.
I believe a notice politely informing the user that their browser is outdated and insecure, and with a link to a page offering the user the possible alternatives, and instructions on how to get them set up on their computer. This technique, I've seen used on quite a few sites, and I think works well. And they won't get any quicker if nobody is willing to make the move to a newer system.
James You definitely bring up a valid business case for supporting older browsers. I'd be interested to see what some of your traffic data looks like and if we're talking about significantly lost revenue i.
The better option would be to have a conditional message that explains to users on older browsers that they are not secure and shouldn't be making purchases through ANY website without updating their browser. That way you're building trust as well as pushing technology forward. I doubt someone who reads a security prompt like that is going to shop at a competitor simply out of convenience.
Many people on older technology are among the most fearful of online transactions to begin with. I run a SaaS where certain critical users are still unable to upgrade beyond IE7 yes, you read correctly, and the date on this post is correct.
Should I shut down my company and make a new product targeted at people who keep their software up-to-date? Your case looks quite specific, usually not supporting old IEs means to abandon some small amount of traffic and income as a part of our social responsibility. If your business is dependent on critical users using old IEs, you need to support it but I would be looking at the ways how these users can upgrade their insecure OS.
Such advise can be an added value of your business. If you are keeping the table updated, you might want to add a note that Firefox is planning on ending support for XP and Vista in September They have already ended feature updates. The idea that users even care what tech people have to go through is a pipe-dream, especially given our salaries. Make it work is the montra, and don't make me do anything. If a company ignores that, they lose market share, which means they go out of business.
This is why business people run businesses, and tech people do tech. Not a troll post, just stating facts - sorry if it offends anyone. Also, I want to back up my previous post with data, according to netmarketshare. The market share of those old versions would be much smaller.
Also the point of the article is that nowadays you can only run those old versions on old, insecure version of Windows. For people who do there are probably many more things not working as should, plus they are much more vulnerable to hacks and exploits. I am not using any version of IE, I only used chrome and that is better than others.
Internet Explorer should be destroyed. In an ideal world I would only ever support Google Chrome but that ain't gonna happen. Also when doing development for large businesses like banks, all their office computers often run old versions of windows due to bespoke software therefore they have very old version of IE that has to be supported.
I think maybe for public facing websites this kind of view could be taken although I can understand it would be sensitive eg. But for internal web applications that you have to support old version of IE, I can't see this changing anytime soon. Here are the set of steps you should take to find the appropriate remediation strategy.
Open the site in Internet Explorer 11, load the F12 tools by pressing the F12 key or by selecting F12 Developer Tools from the Tools menu, and select the Emulation tab. You will need to make sure the User agent string dropdown matches the same browser version as the Document mode dropdown. For example, if you were testing to see if the site works in Internet Explorer 10, you should update the Document mode dropdown to 10 and the User agent string dropdown to Internet Explorer If you find a mode in which your site works, you will need to add the site domain, sub-domain, or URL to the Enterprise Mode Site List for the document mode in which the site works, or ask the IT administrator to do so.
You can add the x-ua-compatible meta tag or HTTP header as well. Enable the Let users turn on and use Enterprise Mode from the Tools menu policy locally on your machine. To do this:. After making this change, run gpupdate. You should also make sure to disable this setting once you're done testing. Alternately, you can use a regkey; see Turn on local control and logging for Enterprise Mode for more information.
Restart Internet Explorer 11 and open the site you're testing, then go to Emulation tab in the F12 Developer Tools and select Enterprise from the Browser profile dropdown. To try this approach:. Go to the Tools menu, select Compatibility View Settings , and add the site to the list. Adding the same Web path to the Enterprise Mode and sections of the Enterprise Mode Site List will not work, but we will address this in a future update.
We recommend that enterprise customers focus their new development on established, modern web standards for better performance and interoperability across devices, and avoid developing sites in older Internet Explorer document modes. As you move your web apps to modern standards, you can enable the Turn on Internet Explorer Standards Mode for local intranet Group Policy setting and add those sites that need Internet Explorer 5 or Internet Explorer 7 modes to the Site List.
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